Knee Pain

Knee Anatomy Frontal View

Knee pain is a common presentation for clients of any range of age and gender.

Knee pain indeed is a vast topic.

So in this post, we are going to go through how to identify the reason why we can experience knee pain.

For doing so we are going to look at some special testing, that we use for the knee joints.

Next, in a further post, we may analyse individual conditions.

What about the Knee Joint?

The knee is the strongest joint in the body.

It takes a lot of pressure from the upper body and still has to handle the shock coming from the lower leg session, shock as walking, running and jumping.

Indeed, whenever we do one of these actions, the knee plays a big role.

Knee Anatomy

Bond:

  • Above: Femur
  • Below: Medially the Tibia, laterally the Fibula.
  • Patellar is the front “floating bond”

Knee Anatomy

Ligaments:

  • Anterior Crucial Ligament
  • Posterior Crucial Ligament
  • Posterior Menisco-Femoral Ligament
  • Fibular Collateral Ligament
  • Tibial Collateral Ligament
  • Transverse Ligament (this one is visible only from the front side of the knee, below the patella).

In between the bonds we have:

  • Medial Meniscus
  • Lateral Meniscus

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So, the knee joint can be divided into two parts:

  • Tibiofemoral joint
    Connects through the collateral ligaments, cruciate ligaments and menisci;
  • Patellofemoral joint
    Gives stability to the medial and lateral retinaculum and allows the extension mechanism through the tendons of the quadriceps f..

Now that we have a better idea of what the knee anatomy is, we can look into his functionality.

Knee ROM are:

Extension: 0°
Flexion: 140°
Internal Rotation: 30°
External Rotation: 40°
Abduction/Adduction: 15°

Said so, we can see that the major movement that the knee can accomplish is, flexion.

Even if the Internal and External rotation since to be a big move for the knee, in the reality, that’s not always the case.

The older we get, easily this motion actively gets tighter.

Indeed, one of the main reason for meniscus injury is the twisting of the knee, when the feet is holding the ground and the body rotates.

But as previously mentioned in this post we would look into the knee special test.

What knee functional test have to tell us?

As we already mentioned in another post, a generic active, passive or resisted ROM tell us about muscle functionality.

On the other hand, a special test for the knee can show us if a ligament or a meniscus is loose, in the case of ligament or injured.

Furthermore, special tests, on the knee are essential to prevent further injury and reduce joint degeneration.

To start with we have the drawer test: Anterior Draw test and Posterior Draw test.

The Anterior one is to test the anterior crucial ligament, and the posterior, obviously, is for the crucial posterior ligament.

Both these tests are done with the client lying supine on the table, with a hip and knee flexed, and foot on the table.

The therapist will ensure that the foot doesn’t move and will place its hands around the knee, with the fingers (except the thumb) seating at the top of the calf and the thumbs seating on the patella.

For the A.D. test, the therapist will lightly pull the knee joint away from the patient body.

On the other hand, for the P.D. test, the therapist will push the knee towards the patient’s body.

These tests are positive if there is a loose movement within the knee, in the direction of pull or push.

If the client has a history of injuries, to the ACL or PCL the therapist wants to make sure not to push or pull with great effort, or injury could occur.

Anterior draw knee test

Vagus and varus test.

Those tests analyse the status of the medial and lateral ligaments.

For the valgus test, the therapist places one hand above the knee laterally, and the other hand above the ankle on the medial side.

By applying opposite pressure in the 2 directions we put the medial ligament under stress.

If pain is reproduced, or there is a loose movement the test is positive.

The same action is for the Varus test.

In this case, the hands are placed still above the knee and ankle, but the bottom hand is placed laterally and the top one, is placed medially.

Apleys Test

This test is used to evaluate the state of the meniscus.

The client, in this case, would be lying in a prone position, with the knee flexed.

The therapist will be standing next to the client, on the side of the knee flexed and will apply pressure to the knee.

If no pain is reproduced with pressure only, the therapist can gently apply a rotation movement to the flexed knee.

The test is positive if the pain is reproduced.

McMurray test.

This is luckily the most efficient and most used knee test used by therapists in case of meniscus injury

Here is how it works:

The patient lies in the supine position with the knee completely flexed (heel to glute).

Lateral Meniscus: the examiner then medially rotates the tibia and extends the knee.

Medial Meniscus: the examiner then laterally rotates the tibia and extends the knee.

McMurray is a positive test if the pain is reproduced.

There are still a couple of tests that can be done for the knee, but so far we did cover the most important.

About the therapy that I can offer for releasing knee pain, MLD is what I would suggest the most.

Especially for acute pain and swelling or oedema reduction.

Whereas, Myotherapy or Remedial Massage and Thai Massage can be used too but more to facilitate and or strengthen the muscle surrounding the area.

 


Giovanni La Rocca

Giovanni moved to Melbourne, Australia, from Italy in 2008 and became a citizen in 2017. He started studying massage therapy in 2016, then completed a Bachelor of Health Science in Clinical Myotherapy in August 2024. During those years, he also specialised in Thai Massage and Manual Lymphatic Drainage for presentations like Lipedema and Lymphoedema. Nowadays, he runs his clinic in Fitzroy North, Melbourne, where he integrates movement therapy into his practice to enhance overall well-being. He also values meditation, having completed several Vipassana courses. Committed to continuous learning, he aims to share his expertise in integrated therapies to help others achieve balance and resilience.

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Arm Lymphoedema Quiz

Based on the original document - Piller,NB (2006) Lymphoedema Research unit Department of surgery, Flinders Medical Centre, Bedford Park, South Australia,  5042 (Adapted and reprinted with permission). This guide is designed as an educational aid-based primary on experience, no evidence in literature.

1. More than 10 nodes removed from armpit
2. Radiotherapy to armpit area
3. More than 2 infections (redness) in the limb per year
4. Whole of Breast Removed (Mastectomy)
5. More than 2 but less than 10 nodes removed from armpit
6. Radiotherapy to chest/breast area
7. Fluids drained from wound more than 1 week
8. Infection at the wound site
9. One infection (redness) in the limb per year
10. Heaviness, tightness or tension in the limb at times
11. Frequent cuts/scratches to the limb
12. Dry skin
13. Part of Breast removed
14. 1 or 2 nodes removed from armpit
15. Limb feels different as the day progresses

OTHER PROBLEMS WHICH MAY ADD TO RISK

16. Body weight is very high (obese)
17. Surgery was on side of dominant hand
18. Generally experience high stress levels
19. Generally have high non-controlled blood pressure
20. Body weight is a little high (overweight)
21. Frequent long distance air traveler
22. Previous or current other injuries to limb/shoulder
23. Thyroid gland activity is not normal and not medicated
24. “At risk” limb is used for repetitive actions
25. Often carry heavy loads for long periods using “at risk” arm
26 Smoking is currently part of my life
27. Swelling was present in limb prior to surgery

What to do now?

  • If you are at LOW RISK, then you will benefit from a range of appropriate educational literature that may be able to even further reduce the risk of developing lymphoedema.

  • If you are at MODERATE or HIGH RISK, then the educational materials will also benefit you. Ideally, if you are in these categories, you should have a non-invasive assessment (Bio-impedance spectroscopy or Tissue Dielectric Constants) to determine if there are already some fluid accumulations in your "risk" limb.

Independently of your level of risk, Giovanni offers 15-minute Online Consultation to better guide you on how to manage this presentation, or prevent any degeneration.

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Lipedema Quiz

This is not a diagnostic tool but only a guide.
To learn more about the Lipedema presentation, contact Giovanni by sending the result, or booking a free 15-minute online consultation. Be sure to include your full name and email address in the form below (At the end of the quiz).

If you prefer to contact Giovanni anonymously, call with a private number at 0449790781.

Texture of fatty tissue may feel granular and/orfibrotic
Symmetrical, disproportionate accumulation of fatty tissue (refer to picture on the Lipedema page)
The waist may be small in proportion to thighs, buttocks, and legs
Cuffs or bulges may develop around joints (e.g. ankles, knees, elbows, wrists). Feet remainunaffected unless lymphoedema is a comorbidity
Legs are often hypersensitive to touch and pressureand may feel cold
Affected areas may bruise easily with minimaltrauma
Patients describe affected areas as sore, painful, heavy, swollen and tired
Symptoms can worsen in hot weather, during orafter exercise, standing or sitting for long periods
Fat pads, which can be tender or painful, accumulate on the upper outer thighs, inner thighs, and around the knee area, can cause abnormal gait,and contribute to joint pain
Filling of the retromalleolar sulcus
Hypermobility
Soft, thin skin with loss of elasticity. Skin can havea lumpy appearance.
Non-pitting oedema and negative Stemmer’s sign on feet and hands in the absence of coexisting lymphoedemaPitting oedema is when by appling pressure to the area with a finger, for more than 60 seconds, you get left an indentation in the skin.
Difficulty losing weight from affected areas despite exercise, modified diet or bariatric surgery. If well-directed, these measures may help reduceinflammation and co-existing obesity if present
Abnormal nerve sensations
Pain on blood pressure check (larger cuff may berequired)
Relatives with similar body shape or fat distribution

Out of 17 questions, the number above, tells you how many symptoms applies to you. The more symptoms, the more luckily you are suffering from a Lipedema presentation. Get in touch with Giovanni now, via the form below, for further understanding on how to manage Lipedema presentation.

Reference list

This quiz is a reproduction of a flyer from the association Lipoedema Australia.
The reference list is Adapted from 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13,14[1] , 16, 18 and available here (PDF).

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Leg Lymphoedema Quiz

Based on the original document - Piller,NB (2006) Lymphoedema Research unit Department of surgery, Flinders Medical Centre, Bedford Park, South Australia,  5042 (Adapted and reprinted with permission). This guide is designed as an educational aid-based primary on experience, no evidence in literature.

1. More than 10 nodes removed from the groin
2. Radiotherapy to the groin/pelvic area
3. Average of more than 2 infections (cellulitis) in the limb per year
4. Dry or scaly skin on lower legs/feet
5. More than 2 but less than 10 nodes removed from groin
6. Fluids drained from wound more than 1 week
7. Infection at the wound site after surgery
8. Average of one infection (cellulitis) in the limb per year
9. Frequent cuts/scratches to the limb
10. 1 or 2 nodes removed from the groin
11. Heaviness, tightness or tension in the limb at times
12. Limb feels worse as the day progresses

OTHER PROBLEMS WHICH MAY ADD TO RISK

13. Family history of leg swelling
14. Frequent long distance air/bus/car traveler
15. Previous or current other injuries to legs, ankles or feet
16. Limb is most often in a dependant position (standing)
17. Generally experience high stress levels
18. Generally have high blood pressure
19. Thyroid gland activity is not normal and not medicated
20. Diabetic but controlled by diet or medication
21. Diabetic uncontrolled
22. Some varicose veins or spider veins
23. Many varicose veins or spider veins
24. Prior varicose vein stripping and scars
25. Smoking is currently part of my life
26. Body weight is a little high (overweight)
27. Body weight is very high (obese)
28. Diet is rich in animal (omega 6) fats
29. Swelling was present in limb prior to surgery/radiotherapy

What to do now?

  • If you are at LOW RISK, then you will benefit from a range of appropriate educational literature that may be able to even further reduce the risk of developing lymphoedema.

  • If you are at MODERATE or HIGH RISK, then the educational materials will also benefit you. Ideally, if you are in these categories, you should have a non-invasive assessment (Bio-impedance spectroscopy or Tissue Dielectric Constants) to determine if there are already some fluid accumulations in your "risk" limb.

Independently of your level of risk, Giovanni offers 15-minute Online Consultation to better guide you on how to manage this presentation, or prevent any degeneration.

Book your free 15-minutes online consultation now.

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